Thursday, October 20, 2005
Bait
Now and then, the left-wing rag that passes for a newspaper around here posts an opinion piece that seems to be little more than bait for angry reactions. It's rare, though, that the paper publishes something as transparent as today's pseudo-intellectual rant from Virginia Tech architecture professor Dennis J. Kilper.
I can almost hear keyboards being pounded across the area, and expect a deluge of angry letters to the editor over the coming weeks.
The op-ed piece in question almost isn't worth responding to... but you know me, I can't resist. Here's just a few highlights, and my take:
Jesus was the classical liberal... We don't even know if Jesus was gay. He had 12 guys he loved and few women.
In the usenet days, before blogs, we used to call this "trolling."
I'm sure that it's safe to assume that Kilper is smart enough and informed enough to know that Christians see sexuality as a spiritual exchange (rather than a mere physical one) between two people. I'm also sure that he knows that we Christians believe that the spiritual side of Christ was divine, and transcended any and all forms of mere human spirituality, including sexuality. By arguing that Jesus was possibly gay... and, likewise, by arguing that he wasn't, we're really arguing that he was a mere mortal. For a Christian, it's an unwinnable argument, best ignored. This kind of baiting is really just lazy.
If you want your student to be fairly judged among his peers, you had better hope he is the student of a liberal teacher. The liberal teacher has no ideology to promote and mostly loses arguments with ideologues, because the ideologue is a dogmatist -- certain he is right without the need for argument.
Wow. That's absolutely amazing. Talk about circular logic. Kilper argues, with a straight face, that even though liberals lose most of their arguments, their beliefs are still inherently superior to those they argue against. I think they used to call that "sour grapes."
So, yeah, right... I hope that my child is the student of a liberal teacher because I want my child to learn to lose arguments and congratulate himself for it. Sure.
Reactionaries believe in theocracy as a fantasy that our founding fathers invented, despite the Christian country they sought to escape in search of religious freedom. Pathetic, isn't it? Our founders did not invent a Christian nation -- they hoped to avoid it. .
I know that people with all kinds of perspectives assign their own beliefs to the founding fathers regularly, but this is beyond the pale.
Then, there's this nugget:
There are but three phrases necessary to preserve a democracy.
The first is "social awareness." It means the people of the democracy are aware of the inequity that surrounds them.
The second is "social conscience" -- belief that when one suffers we all suffer, and it is our communal responsibility to rectify the inequity.
The third phrase is "social responsibility" -- that we all bear the burden, and we should all have equal opportunity for success, education, health care and subsistence support when we are disabled or otherwise unable to provide for the well-being of our household. .
OK, so the three concepts that preserve our nation are social awareness, social conscience, and social responsibility. We need to be aware of the world around us and respond to one another with love and respect. Hmmm. Where've I heard those things argued for before? Oh, yeah... In church every Sunday.
But, how could that be? Our founding fathers wanted to avoid centering the nation on Christian ideals, right?
And, by the way, it's my less-learned opinion (and I'll argue this with anyone who wants to approach the topic) that of all the governmental systems that provide for those three concepts, the one that does it best is democratic capitalism.
Anyway, it was bait, and I took it. I hope that most of my fellow conservative Christians can see this piece for what it is.... and if they, like me, take the bait, I hope they do it as lackadaisically as possible. Arguments like the ones Kilper presented here don't deserve passionate responses.
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I've come to the conclusion that Kipler is either an idiot, or very intellectually lazy. I tend to believe the latter.
He might be right about Jesus being a classical liberal, but only when you compare it to the modern liberal. Jesus preached to a lot of people about taking care of the poor. I certainly don't remember Him forcing them to by wielding the iron fist of law, throwing people in jail for not giving to the poor, keeping 70% of it for himself, and exempting himself from his own commands. No, Jesus was in no way shape or form a modern liberal.
Gay? That's just silly. Considering what Paul said about homosexuality in Romans, and that Jesus was sinless, that statement can just be tossed out and laughed at.
Judged fairly by liberals: That is a plain old bold faced lie. Liberals have as much, if not more, of an ideology than conservatives. Having been a liberal and hung out in those circles, I say that with authority.
Theocracy: No, we don't want a theocracy. We also don't want to be infringed upon participating in life, society, and government because of our beliefs. Being a Christian does not disqualify you from public service.
Preserve a democracy: We are NOT a democracy. We are a representitive republic.
The first is "social awareness." Yeah, I'm aware of inequality. However, a lot of it today is because of choices made in life.
The second is "social conscience" and the third is "social responsibility."
That is just marxist crap. Social conscience only applies to inequality that is beyond a persons control. If it is because of the choices they made in life, hey, life can be a real bitch. Deal with it. The third is the surefire way to break the back of a society.
He might be right about Jesus being a classical liberal, but only when you compare it to the modern liberal. Jesus preached to a lot of people about taking care of the poor. I certainly don't remember Him forcing them to by wielding the iron fist of law, throwing people in jail for not giving to the poor, keeping 70% of it for himself, and exempting himself from his own commands. No, Jesus was in no way shape or form a modern liberal.
Gay? That's just silly. Considering what Paul said about homosexuality in Romans, and that Jesus was sinless, that statement can just be tossed out and laughed at.
Judged fairly by liberals: That is a plain old bold faced lie. Liberals have as much, if not more, of an ideology than conservatives. Having been a liberal and hung out in those circles, I say that with authority.
Theocracy: No, we don't want a theocracy. We also don't want to be infringed upon participating in life, society, and government because of our beliefs. Being a Christian does not disqualify you from public service.
Preserve a democracy: We are NOT a democracy. We are a representitive republic.
The first is "social awareness." Yeah, I'm aware of inequality. However, a lot of it today is because of choices made in life.
The second is "social conscience" and the third is "social responsibility."
That is just marxist crap. Social conscience only applies to inequality that is beyond a persons control. If it is because of the choices they made in life, hey, life can be a real bitch. Deal with it. The third is the surefire way to break the back of a society.
Darrell, you misinterpreted Kipler's "admission" that liberals lose arguments. What he was trying to say is that it is useless to argue with idealogues; the idealogues always think they win the argument because they are so stuck on their agenda. What he does not mention is that arguing with Conservatives is also dangerous, because they might grab the shotgun out of their pickup truck and shoot you.
That last statement was said sarcastically by the way. Kipler's mistake is that he assumes all conservatives are idealogues and all idealogues are conservative.
Oh, by the way, I've decided to choose a new alias whenever I post on your blog. I want to ensure anonymity by no longer writing my real name, which is Saul.
The three tenets of democracy remind me of something that happened here recently. My wife received an e-mail from a major teacher's union which shall remain nameless. The e-mail spoke out against the Taxpayer Bill of Rights, which is a conservative bill currently going through our state capitol. The writer stated that the income tax was originally created because the government knew that having a large gap between rich and poor was a threat to a healthy democracy. He then continues this Manifesto by listing dozens of statistics showing how much wider the gap is nowadays. Of course my wife and her fellow teachers all absorbed this as fact. I don't doubt the statistics, but the "wealth gap" crap just reeks of communism and socialism, which historically don't appear to lend themselves to "Democracy."
One more note, Darrell. In all your rants about how liberal the Roanoke paper is, you have neglected to mention the root cause of all that liberalism in Roanoke. It's that five-pointed star on Mill Mountain...it should have six points.
Yours Truly,
The Governor
That last statement was said sarcastically by the way. Kipler's mistake is that he assumes all conservatives are idealogues and all idealogues are conservative.
Oh, by the way, I've decided to choose a new alias whenever I post on your blog. I want to ensure anonymity by no longer writing my real name, which is Saul.
The three tenets of democracy remind me of something that happened here recently. My wife received an e-mail from a major teacher's union which shall remain nameless. The e-mail spoke out against the Taxpayer Bill of Rights, which is a conservative bill currently going through our state capitol. The writer stated that the income tax was originally created because the government knew that having a large gap between rich and poor was a threat to a healthy democracy. He then continues this Manifesto by listing dozens of statistics showing how much wider the gap is nowadays. Of course my wife and her fellow teachers all absorbed this as fact. I don't doubt the statistics, but the "wealth gap" crap just reeks of communism and socialism, which historically don't appear to lend themselves to "Democracy."
One more note, Darrell. In all your rants about how liberal the Roanoke paper is, you have neglected to mention the root cause of all that liberalism in Roanoke. It's that five-pointed star on Mill Mountain...it should have six points.
Yours Truly,
The Governor
I was going to slice and dice this guy's hypocrisy as well over at From On High but I try to limit my belittling of that particular paper to once a day. Unfortunately for the nutty professor, I read his silliness after I'd posted on a separate but equally inane article.
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the good work.
So most men hang with men more than women, are they gay? I have also come to the conclusion that kippler is an idiot.
I could go on about why people are idiots for trying to make Jesus out to be gay, but I better not :D
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I could go on about why people are idiots for trying to make Jesus out to be gay, but I better not :D
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